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2945: Laird Street Baptist, Birkenhead, England

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10 November 2015

Really sorry you thought the sermon was only 6 out of 10. It's clear from your summary that the message did not come across with the clarity I had hoped.

What I was trying to say was to challenge the prevailing idea that Ephesians 4 defines ministry as requiring up to five "elements" or, as it is often called, the "five fold ministry." Rather, what matters is its impact on the people of God.

The new pastor and her church should be less concerned about whether they conform to defined expectations of ministry, so much as whether they are growing into the fullness of Christ.

Revd Phil Jump

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